tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-66684762024-03-14T17:00:27.172+11:00FanaticismThe redoubling of effort-- a piece of desperation by those in power?
Read the wind without reaping the whirlwind - redirect the reactionaries . Read Santayana's definition at the start of this blog.journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-81868169460755731162022-08-14T10:00:00.003+10:002022-08-22T17:13:59.994+10:00The illusion of strength <p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtIvTjgHI8SwTsVU7lywBspkyu5rzAT9jZt-ix_tfBkPlNlzkAqssaJi1ffC0TcjOX9CPP01nZtLII-QunOuAPbwVnW99A06lyxrEGfVKPuotoo8xfIX5LcrUwTCfPdZ7t5Ir4_v8nq9_vhfGagH3vywB8gQYskzh9IdfIxB2a5jTIOgDrSf4/s357/boatrefloatsjlm.jpg" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="272" data-original-width="357" height="244" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtIvTjgHI8SwTsVU7lywBspkyu5rzAT9jZt-ix_tfBkPlNlzkAqssaJi1ffC0TcjOX9CPP01nZtLII-QunOuAPbwVnW99A06lyxrEGfVKPuotoo8xfIX5LcrUwTCfPdZ7t5Ir4_v8nq9_vhfGagH3vywB8gQYskzh9IdfIxB2a5jTIOgDrSf4/s320/boatrefloatsjlm.jpg" width="320" /></a></div> For those of us who follow the Master, the idea that "we are winning the war" is quite real, but it is seldom something we see day to day in the world around us. <br /><br />We, like all those who see their causes apparently failing, can get fanatical easily . <br />Sorry about that when it happens . <br /><br />But while a downturn can get to us, our master looks after us and we learn to see and keep investing in the future " using <b>That hideous strength </b>" . <br /><br />.A down turn is hard work .But low ebbs are where the vision of ultimate success is often where the outcome is most concrete and sustainable What also sustains us, is that we learn form experience that the picture we have of things going the right way is often just that -- an illusion . <br />. <br /><br />No so those whose god is their popularity, like the Pirate Fitzimmons . Turnbull and Phillip Adams and sadly many who hide in what was once our ABC . <br /><b>The charm of the rebel starts to wear thin when the childishness of the games they play become obvious to others . <br /></b>When media heavies confuse popularity with democracy for example<br />,When the guru knows everything <br />When someone like Flannery dares to open his mouth on every subject he wants and the ABC broadcast it :When Adams trots out every turnup as his own creation .<br />When our supposedly intellectual ABC don't question why Adam Bandt is controlling the agenda of Parliament . <br />When the same old same olds keep being trotted out to drum up support for their expensive columns of hot air .Q&A's total hypocrisy became real to many as it kept moving the targets each few minutes. <br /><br />Real passions are driven by more than the bank and book accounts ......and last longer. <br /><br />As in all ages where dilatants have the stage , most of us are too busy achieving things to let the shallow speculation of how things work take up out time . Read Valclav Smil <br /><br />When the<a href="http://dogood.blogspot.com"> traitors</a> ships start to sink , any illusion that the captain actually has a crew is soon shown if you note all the silence as the rats abandon the rotting hull . <br /><br /><br /><b>The Creator of habitats</b> doesn't live in a particular hull and encourages us to live the same : sail the high seas with gay abandon and a faith that says the world is round and the forces can work for good . <br /><br /><br /><br />You may see the ship sinking but we know that you are only seeing a down turn in mere numbers and dramatic highlights. Do fanatics lose sight of what a highlight really looks like?- they certainly have lost sight of how to get there!<p></p>journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-55928939004405984212022-08-03T12:07:00.014+10:002022-08-04T10:42:30.240+10:00The cyclic is a more reliable basis for hope than the linear . <p><br />Progressives are their own worst enemies - going too hard in one direction and setting themselves up for overreach .Like the little kids they often are , they are impatient to go somewhere and don't care enough about how quickly they can waste their life in quick fixes that don't work.If they are adults they still have to go back to classes they have skipped and which would have helped them be more successful in their latest foray . <br />Those of us who have achieved things need to remind each other of just how many turns there are in the road .If we don't do that, and teach our children about slowing down, reading the signposts and making the tough choices , the crashes along the way will grow .<br /><br /><b>Our situation post election 2022 in Australia with progressives advocating a rocket ride to 46% is completely mad and childish.<br /></b><br /> All thinking adults want the reconciliation with fossil fuel supply, but some of us know you can't forge the way forward . Many things and much pain including climbing costs of resources will play a bigger in this reconciliation than mere laws and the the irrational desires to not study previous failures ( eg Carbon tax) assuage guilt and unrealistic attempts to stop greed. <br /><br />Getting progress is not a matter of speed or even direction as the children have now stated ( The truth is there are many ways to same end and the wooriers" end is nigh" scenarios are not ours ( inc SMIL) . <br />Anyone who is ever going to really make progress knows achievement comes by knowing the route ,the connections , the distractions -- the HOW as Vaclav Smil ( HOW THE WORLD REALLY WORKS) points out so well in his new book .Most progressives do not know this because they refuse to accept the discipline of walking . They see , like the children they often are , only the end point. <br /> <br /><br />You see , pointing the way is the pedantic child's way and we don't need the increasing numbers of children in Parliament as we ALL go into what will be a difficult transition . The adult thing is to remind each other that while the noisy children will bang on about the end point , we all agree on the end point but need a strategy for each days journey , and it may not be a straight line ; and most importantly won't be achieved before they leave Parliament . <br />The childish fights in the house now that they have done this will be hard for everyone to bear . <br /><br />If the truth be told , most westerners are not very successful in advancing solutions to complex problems and show this in their cynicism about old ways ( they have tried -- in a sort of a way)and their vulnerability to new clothes salesmen.<br /><br />The transition away from fossil fuels is a huge one but one that will need the very same precision<a href="cuttingedgecare.blogspot.com "> ( not the smart arse cutting )</a> that has made the West great and which is often abandoned by the poor students of our day . . <br />True respect for science incl science of economics &ecology is already absent and there is no way the paid off research institutions can ever recover http://ecomia.blogspot.com <br />30 years of Flannerys flaying around on the ABC has been 30 years wasted and all we have is a generation of children lost to that institution's cynicism . The Americans or someone in Asia maybe the first to revive an education system that works because we the reactionary west , sure can't . </p><p><br />Progressives in the <a href="greenlabor.blogspot.com ">Green labor alliance</a> are still ( August 2022) very upbeat about the opportunities that being elected provides them for more action on climate change <br />.<br />Stupidly, its progressives silly shallow faith in being first off the starting blocks and heading for simple meaningless but tokenistic goals that increase the risk of failure by believing too much in the power of raw power ( a common enough fad of those who have never weilded it ) ---- Its the effectiveness of any action ( not the push factor or a date and a %)that really matters. <br /><br />This blind ambition is stupid in the extreme when its clear these leaders have no idea of the critical elements of energy and how it powers our economy . <br /><b>Its all very well to talk sustainability but just a joke if you don't know how to get it</b> . The oldies keep talking about batteries and technologies yet to be proven, handcuffed by bad mouthing coal and nuclear . <b>tied up completeley by making mad competing nonsense assumptions about quickly we can all run . Bankruptcy is the end result of such a process. </b><br />Smil makes the critical point that we do need to go there in haste , but shows how mad it is to set goals and think its all political and not economic ( eg the price of fuel being a more efficient allocator of resources than ANY government policy . So whose pushing and what cerd do they have ? <br /><br />This phenomenon not lost on those of us who know the cycle of impotence( let alone the cycle of radiation physics which makes us laugh at the mere worship of the invisible --wind and hot air) .and the end stages of fanaticism .Many of us who know how to manage real world resources, know the real cost of fanaticism is going to be in a huge unnecessary degradation of those resources. <br /><i><br />Nothing can touch you for a while because even </i> if you don't know what you are actually going to do, you DO have the power to change policy direction and keep the daily media for new angles happy . The majority of the public will often see all his movement as progress , as they have dome with Mr Andrews clear ability to get ahead of his own dogs and dodges and stop them from bighting him on the behind. <br />This powerful effectiveness o this wonderful (if short trem gain )phenomenon is not seen by most people who are used to being served <a href="quickfiz.blogspot.com ">some sweet newness treat each day </a>. <br /><br />lets face it everyone on the screen is playing the game . What they don't know,<b> but the panel at Gruen know is---- just who is paying </b><br /> </p>journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-58832652901430353742021-09-21T21:51:00.007+10:002021-09-21T22:01:36.910+10:00Don't give up just yet <p> Like Robespierre, the tyrant may have cut off enough heads to be desperate; really desperate. There appear to only a limited number of ways to control people with fear -esp when facts of history come back into focus . <br /> The chief maybe searching for someone to blame for his incompetence and needless bloodletting ; let alone the ditching of the constitution and the creation of a police state, <br />, Can't blame your own appointments, but you can blame the modellers (that new group that cover up a lot of muddling ); the high priests, the blood letters ( Oh dear we don't believe in having them around anymore ) <br />Fortunately for blame shifting, the average joe blow thinks modelling is science .It is if you providing the assumptions." Lots of people are still at risk, but this time its not me or my appointees " that said so . Lets ignore the history lets try asking the Burnet institute for MYOB research. 2000 deaths . <br /><br />If you ever get beyond your own understanding , just remind the audience of what really works . <a href="http://thinkhebrew.blogspot.com">Hymn singing</a> . <br /><br />See " The French Revolution " documentary based on work of T Carlyle or try Peter in Prison <br /><br /></p>journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-29732916602018503902021-04-23T09:53:00.001+10:002021-04-23T09:53:44.913+10:00Mainstream media are going mad <p> If Santayana was still around he would be first to note the high level of fanaticism at the moment <br />While western leaders show it ,<br /> <b>The imminent demise of media control is making the media go completely mad . </b><br /><br />an eg <br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wrote a personal message recommendation, as a ecologist, for the Media to look into the total confusion over what works in reducing carbon dioxide levels . <br />Facebook thought it didn't meet community standards and removed it . I will send anyone a link who asks for it .<br />Admins unsatisfactory adjudication of "what's printable "would offend even Voltaire.</p><p>Maybe that's the biggest story of the moment ?<br /><br />You too can ask me for the story -----if you dare . </p>journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-2982486477497179182020-09-14T19:30:00.000+10:002020-09-14T19:30:13.423+10:00The greatest evil is often done in the name of best intention <p> <br />When leaders are Basking in the glory of their own self righteous wisdom, they can be impossible .<br />. <br />They are not going to see reason and back down - they want to redouble the push so they can be proven right .......Such fanaticism is normal in those rare moments when leaders feel they are really doing some good , but the sooner they see that any improvement will be down to operatives ) the less damage all the fooling around with more fear ( you must do what we say) will stop <br /><br />The Victorian and Queensland Premiers of the moment have convinced themselves they are defending the good and right against a torrent of revelation that they don' t.."Someone will die if you don't do what I say"</p><p> Most leaders don't really don really know what they doing . But in rare moments when they feel and claim to occupy the highest moral and scientific ground , that self righteousness protects them from seeing what is really going on NOW ,<br />For various reasons they are not where they think they are , <br />They think at one hour they are trusting the best advice and yet on the striking clock they briefly remember they were always more interested always in trying to prove something Too bad if others pay for my games ---- its fun for me ,<br />The hypocrites can't have it both ways <br /> </p>journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-82733544661782575462017-08-22T10:36:00.001+10:002017-08-22T17:40:46.893+10:00Marriage-- it brings out the fanaticism in us Same sex marriage - like all marriage --- brings out the worst in us. <br />
In marriage we all have the POWER to choose HOW it works and WHOM rules apply too . For many of us, Marriage defines the boundaries of our freedom and power ,<br />
How is it possible that many would so calmly <b>change the definition </b>of something that would normally make us potentially very emotional<br />
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<b>Perhaps States should stay well away?</b> . It's the politicians idea after all that CHANGE is necessary ( or more accurately some minority they have to listen to stay in power )<i> Resisting change driven by minorities welding their power makes great sense to me. </i><br />
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<li>Law is not about love, but protection in truly libertarian countries ( cf tyranical ) Law is not about giving in to noisemakers, but objective risk and reaction assessment . </li>
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<b>I don't believe for a moment that the push for same ceremony, same status is genuine</b> --.<b> </b>The people who want to fix themselves to ancient ceremony is decreasing by the hour . <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">So what is this push to change the language and include SSM <u>really</u> all about ? </span></b><br />
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<b>1. Reason often provides no answers to these emotional matters </b> We are not able to see peoples motivations and even if we were we would have to admit that they are complex and probably even contradictory. Wretched man that I am . self justifying excuse making stuff .<br />
One thing is certain then - we are all at risk of getting losts in some logic train if we as lost greeks want to play that game before we decide anything <br />
<b>Lets face facts</b> --we are only pretend Greeks - we decide things on prejudice ; our faith our world view . maybe <b>evidence </b>comes in somewhere and for those who aren't still members of<b><a href="http://childrenincharge.blogspot.com/"> the Children's party</a> </b>( ABC Qand A Aug 21st 2017) there is the valid weight of<b> experience</b>,<br />
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<b>2. Evidence and experience must be weighed up</b> --- called sustainability the way we are going ( yes advocates wanna keep it simple) this will not happen, <br />
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Marriage, as we have known it, has the weight of centuries of support . Not even the might of Marx and Shaw is enough to stop Trad marriage (TM) resurfacing as a ship once sunk The simple logic that the Russions used was common even here at the turn of last century" its only a piece of paper , ceremony and doesn't work ( the clincher for many who worship<a href="http://quickfiz.blogspot.com/"> new technique</a>) <br />
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-<u>-A list of all states in the world who have adopted SSM into actual legislation must be published ASAP dates </u><br />
3. We rely on <b>objective assessment of real risks and real damage from peoples sexual choices </b>-not feelings. probabilities of real damage must be weighed up , not ignored in the change of focus that occurs when changing the focus of civil marriage ( protection of women and children ) It is not sufficient to say that gays can look after children- they clearly can .<br />
4, <b>We must should reject the simple and the sentimental -</b> note this is saying we respect reason but may not rely on it<b> . <br />Most of us get very emotional about Marriage so we will defend it a little too simply </b>We are all likely to get fanatical in our opinion about how it works or should work . In marriage we all have the POWER to choose HOW it works and WHOM rules apply too . For many of us, Marriage defines the boundaries of our freedom and power , <br />
<b>-</b> t<u>he way we are going ( yes advocates wanna keep it simple) complex discussions will not happen before the due date This is plain wrong </u><br />
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-the evidence is that many are never satisfied sexually , whatever status they are given Gen 19:5<br />
- -the evidence is that we ALL have bigots and bigotry in our camps , The more certain you are about what life makes work the more " bigoted " you can seem to the uncertain. <br />
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<b>5 We should stick to the subject </b>( civil marriage and not be distracted by all the religious variations)<br />
6 <b> We should stick to advocating Law changes ONLY when its really necessary</b> . This talk of legislating about love leaves everyone's mind at home <i>. Child protection for civil union couples and adoptive parents and surrogacy should be a separate matter,particularly as the children s identity is more predictable outside TM . </i><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">https://docs.google.com/document/d/19eqr4CYCMNJUpVPYgpsqyuV-zL99NiqUZnW4HgFPXm0/edit?usp=sharing<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><b>Reason provides no answers</b> ( If Nonchristian C -see Susan Neiman )If C -The idea of marriage is God's and he knows more than us ( Genesis 2:18) Its such a great idea even Non believers get to benefit from it ---<b>-either way .... limit <a href="http://misplacedconcreteness.blogspot.com/">the talk </a></b></span><br />
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The people are afraid .<br />
They are deeply afraid of another religion taking over the country .<br />
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As Dalrymple says , all we have left, after centuries of tough minded law and grace is" the toxic cult of sentimentality" - a sort of grace that doesn't work because the basic tension in law and grace is lost - half the solution is no solution.<br />
Half baked PC theology just pays people to "do what they feel like" -killing off all the hard fought toughness and tough thinking resisting of the past -<br />
Modern secular determinism, as practiced in the west, is a soft centered mind numbing addition to ambulance and helicopter based care by governments - not families and "courts" where a sense of responsibility can be taught. Reactive not preventative. Its costs the earth and its killing the earth <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcuttingedgecare.blogspot.com%2F&h=eAQFFEDsmAQGDnKILZCC4t0dyZmLWxbja0dPFn9tGImWtzg&enc=AZM2DGOh-tMhOrXHGrRXWLsOxYKFK3Pl1ZJsVBa51dPGkmMhBEBUHcL6FGIBP7DFlebQmWyJn4EmVVEO-5VuaSBftEEQWx5B4P7odc-74VCku9xcz_hpbUoQx7EfTRrCeXmqq7QuJJbUHLyl1lIKhtwlxEOYIVHr_bA2yppb8IEbw8I6Su_Lk6Y2-Q5P95GjBFI&s=1" rel="nofollow" style="color: #3b5998; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">http://cuttingedgecare.blogspot.com</a></div>
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Shylock types make the historic mistake ( as early Rome did ) of seeing Christianity as weak. Its only weak if its watered down . It's certainly looks weak, but that's not our problem- most media talk and politics is superficial .<br />
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journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-1748317666286062432016-02-15T15:27:00.003+11:002016-02-15T15:35:51.489+11:00Feminism is failing as its fanaticism shows Young women are questioning the wisdom of their mothers - a reasonable and realistic process for any parent and child .It helps weed out the crap of the previous generation even if it creates more of its own<br />
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What the Western children see (esp as daughters who become Muslims or something else) is that the movement is mistaken - both in target and purpose . <br />
<b>"It doesn't work mum - you just come across as men haters. We want strong men, not the wimps you whip them into"</b><br />
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Now that so many more people celebrate their own victimhood , its becomes obvious that the perception is as big a handicap as any reality -a negative impression ; one that eats away at the proponent as well as any victims of real abuse. A projection that helps divert a woman's perception of herself and her limits onto undeserving others.<br />
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Feminism is failing for any number of reasons. Even that most famous of Fabians ( GB shaw ) admitted . just quietly, that he had to duck and weave to avoid all the sycophantic women in his movement who , in his own time , took their own plight too seriously and projected it onto others ( turning it into just another form of the disease of "poor me victimhood " of the 20th century ) <br />
The fanaticism of the femmes for more forcefulness is more and more evident as the Emily's list types lose their power over the argument and their daughters. <br />
"It doesn't work mum - you just come across as men haters. We want strong men , not the wimps you want to whip them into". Go girls .<br />http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/how-i-became-a-feminist-victim/18018#.VsFNE7R94QXjourneymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-40041000679085842202012-04-02T10:03:00.000+10:002012-04-02T10:03:55.135+10:00You can pick fanatics by the way they repeat themselvesBarrie Cassidy was on the hunt for confirmation that He as a statistician had a point to make ; Not one worth making mate; it was embarrassing to watch . Similarly the man who is always repeating himself David Maher wastes public time trying to make yet another point in defence of everything he's against . One week after half the world saw "Insiders" turn into outsiders ABCTV heads could do without this tiresome and predictable defensive talk from their insiders . <br />
Barry Cassidy should know too that his bright shirts are a giveaway. Just as he should know that a real economist should talk stats and real scientists should talk science . (When will the ABC get properly scientific and <a href="http://misplacedconcreteness.blogspot.com/">let a practical scientist run their science agendas </a>) .<br />
Barrie , by letting himself and David Maher wax lyrical and long ( what a pain !- last Sunday ) on subjects they clearly know little about , these wannabes demonstrate that Insiders is really outside of some of the more critical debates going on around them ( they wouldn't even touch marriage --as <a href="http://quickfiz.blogspot.com/">techno phobes</a>- they only believe only in new clothes? which kind of leaves them well out front with little to go on with---- at times ) . journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-22160240094038522012010-03-29T12:40:00.007+11:002010-03-31T10:20:05.006+11:00Brumby 's legacy may well be to turn our legal system into a nightmareHull's ham fisted attempt to deal with things he doesn't like about religious schools doesn't gel with the liberties he offers most other organisations. <br />
Why Brumby would allow Hulls the liberty of forcing schools to defend their employment policy is a mystery. Isn't the whole theme of the new exemptions a recognition that legitimate organisations/ employers have the right to choose their own staff .Schools must be the same!<br />
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Non fanatics would find another way, but the ham fisted Hulls blasts away . why? Hulls has had to be reigned in before .Why not again:? after all , by trying to overturn the burden of proof he needs to be told he's completely ignoring our legal heritage- he's mad ! <br />
Hulls has a few friends though that think " To be a good scientist you have to be a complete materialist ".<br />
But the evidence on thats score is against him ( "Bios, Logos Theos" for eg) .<br />
These monists think subject categories should be checked and double checked for absolute truth , heresy and doctrinal purity when no complete categorization is acceptable to any reasonable scientist .<br />
For example , As I have said elsewhere I think kids at secondary school are smart. ,They need exposure to all sorts of ideas and subject declassification and good schools ( a more acceptable focus?) accept that . I don't like the noise and confusion and deafness created by dull witted censorship and fixed subject classifications . I don't want my daughter's biology teacher ( at any school) or even expect her to constantly go beyond the subject of DNA and adaption by natural selection, to saying its the theory of everything - but it may happen .What polys can do to stop abuse I don't know . Its not there job anyway - its the schools job . I don't want my daughter (IDWMD) to fail to make the distinction between science and the philosophy of science. IDWMD to only hear that meterology is the only way we learn about climate, history, cosmological history , physics and predictive earth science . IDWMD to constantly hear from her english teacher that "Lady's Chatterley's Lover is the best guide to sexual relationships ever .Dicsuss it yes- thats the point Choice . Deal with <a href="http://ondewolf.blogspot.com/">the wolf </a> Maybe my daughter can cope with knowing thats what he really thinks anyway? Its the noise and deafness controls that need some attention --not the subjects ( Its not what goes into a man that ruins him mate - the prophet said)<br />
The very love of categorization, as AN Whitehead pointed out in the 1920's is <a href="http://meredescription.blogspot.com/">a disease .</a> <br />
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Must be something really serious that worries them both ? <br />
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<a href="http://ondewolf.blogspot.com/">Maybe they worry too much</a>. <br />
Neither Brumby nor Hulls seems to realise that the popular teaching of the philosophy of evolutionary determinism (ED)in the media is rightly the subject of a controversy (a category error ) in the public mind and in religious schools in particular . In a free country a category error ( inherently relevant or not relevant) is not a crime, but a point from which to openly and rationally centre debate . Hulls clearly wants to close the debate down .What a dummy .<br />
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Teach ED in a philosophy class , and adaption by natural selection in biology class, at both secular and religious schools ......and BOTH will be happy - no need to panic; no need to get fanatical and spend weeks in court playing letigious logomachy. Not that hard to be reasonable and respectful with what parents (rather than what polys want)............. is it. <br />
<span style="font-size: large;">Is Brumby up to saying no</span> to the reactionaries in his midst? <br />
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Pull off the inherent requirements tests and burden of proof rubbish ( as if a job is the mere sum of the words ) ! Do polys really know what goes wrong where ? Does Labor not realize more Christians (and agnostics too) will leave the State system if the secularists insist in monoculture doctrine review in schools\? The secular/ religious divide in Vic schools is a asset and under good (by teachers and parents)review already ( not polys and legal boffins ---heaven forbid ) ? Sets the scene for category error discussions in a place where it can rightly be discussed ( in front of both parents and teachers)<br />
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Getting fanatical is an admission you have lost sight of the problem.<br />
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-large;">Better not to vote at all than act when you are such a mood ! </span><br />
What do polys know about what works- they maybe out rubbing sticks together next year? <br />
The dumbness of it is obvious to those outside the cage - lets hope not all Laborites are in their together responding in kneejerk fashion to <span style="font-size: large;">what is not their choice , but a parents choice</span> . <br />
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As if Brumby's lot haven't got enough big issues without trying to turn our legal system upside down - a bit of freedom would go down well in the nanny state. <br />
To risk the ruin of the great jewel in Victorias crown of the appeals system as well . The chairman of VCAT has stated the problem - but B government is still creating it. How about a job test for them? ! <br />
<a href="http://politicaceleste.blogspot.com/">Who do they think they are </a>anyway ?journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-27213825097999357432010-03-15T06:49:00.002+11:002010-03-15T08:26:55.499+11:00Evidence of Atheists" having lost sight of their aim"Richard Dawkins and his mates in the AFA need to ask the question whether they are shooting straight.It's all very well being against something - but what are you fighting for. And where indeed is this enemy ?Amongst the rebels or amongst the moderates ?<br />
In shooting directly at religious people the old greeks are ignoring the psychological reality that they are shooting at themselves. Shooting yourselves in the foot? <a href="http://moovinon.blogspot.com">Takes one to know one </a> ?Maybe there are people in the religious congregations who might agree with them on "the dangers of religion" - and don't appreciate being blasted on mass. <br />
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Even if you have a good aim and you HIT the temple directly all you get is SPLINTERS. <br />
To be effective in dealing with the enormous power of religious paradigms, you have to recognise that the rebels and the moderates share the same temple .<br />
Blowing up the temple achieves nothing . The devil is in the detail- and if you want to get the devil , you have deal with him in the detail. <br />
Followers of Christ in particular know all about the dangers of organised religion ( going back into prehistory even ) . They are rebels by nature . Rebellion and isolation is at the heart of the growth of the Christian faith - not the external stuff ; the reactionary stuff. <br />
Maybe spying is a better way to move forward in their ancient battle to rid the world of symbols .Reading Jeremiah might also give them some clues as to who is on what side, when - a key issue in an effecetive strategy and making your arrows work. Better and deeper than that superficial old macheavelli .journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-75888124817795178012010-03-15T06:27:00.000+11:002010-03-15T06:27:15.296+11:00Cummon Richard - Stop shooting yourself in the footRichard Dawkins is less convincing than he thinks because he's not aware of what he's doing . Sure you can make money like Dan Brown questioning everything and "having a go" . We rebels ALL agree that words are powerful , but never let us stop using them, carefully . <br />
Most of us observing rebels to the dangers of instutional religion are asking " are you in denial about being religious yourself" .( science of the mind rather suggests we all are" religous") ABCnews of the grand conference of Atheists in Melbourne this week focused on what looked like denial ( I'm not vehement am i?" ) <br />
Sound sustainability scientists accept the role of aggression, and are not in denial about it .<br />
And what seems worse on the convincing stakes is having Peter Singer as second fiddle .; Surely the man has spent more time chasing reactionary trams than any old greeks we know .<br />
Finally they talk a lot of hot air about evidence.<br />
- few scientists amongst them . They say 'what scientist say" which could mean they just say what they wanna say . They use the word evolution to preach the doctrine of evolutionary and secular determinism . ( a fine but important distinction )<br />
- Celebrating the rise ? All growth is not good. Especially if it arises out of redoubling of effort and there is plenty of evidence for fanaticism and denial amongst them .<br />
-Evidence from History ; need to be more careful who sits in the back row of congregations of people who think they should be allowed to do their own thing . The history of such conferences is that they achieve little ( Ask Emperor Julian - he had lots of money to throw at the problem ) and harbour more tyrants than our own traditions of faith .<br />
- The evidence is that some of these 2nd century Greeks ( via Plato's cave )would have gone further with identifying the merry go round of mere rhetoric than the 21st century ones have in the 2000 years of wild largely unproductive reactionary rhetoric since.journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-7927383309158456822008-08-15T09:53:00.003+10:002008-08-15T10:05:23.596+10:00Make sure noone with a passion is on boardCouldn't help thinking our favoured rebel greer protesteth too much and too wildly on <a href="http://abctv.blogspot.com ">QUANDA</a> on 14th august 2008. If I was greer, I would be wondering who was climbing aboard the train with me. Maybe i too 'like those who hunt fanatics and fundamantalistists, am a fanatic and a fundamantalist - and maybe its Ok ? <br /><br />In lumping 68 books together as crap she rather demeans all books and blunders her way past the wonder paradox of the evening - that narrative. rather than the dumb pedantry of the ever greek greer is what helps people make sense of <a href="http://graceware.blogspot.com">the stuff </a>beyond the stats, the speculation and the science . Ask a scientist---- ask me !journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-29519297544233258292007-10-01T16:01:00.000+10:002007-10-03T15:17:27.783+10:00God VS Science -Only really for the Greeks amongst usI reckon if you stand back far enough from 2 people fighting you can see more clearly than most( those enjoying the spectacle of their predjudices played out) ,you have much more hope of seeing what is really going on. <br />Dawkins and the defenders of Faith have good reason to argue ( Where is God when you need him ? ) Lucky for Dawkins, God does not want to show up. <br />Even more fortuitously for Dawkins , those believers who tend to rush forward ( for eg ; to defend the paradoxical detail of genesis - "the days" )are often not aware of the limits of science, or even of literature.<br />Withsomeone to take issue with "science proves things" , Dawkins has a debate on his hands -<br />But surely its only got some momentume, because both sides are behaving like fanatics. God choosing( it could be said ) to not speak for himself in court doesn' seem tp help the believers case . <a href="http://thechrist.blogspot.com ">Jesus</a> could, inspite of expectations, remains silent before men. The big question, if He is really God , might be why? <br />Clearly for scientist believers , The real aim/question ( Can science and faith coexist ?) is not in focus on this day. It's a myopics field day and Dawkins has set the scene to limit it to that . <br />Any progress towards understanding the big wonder and word questions is likely to be obscured. The redoubling of effort is effective in selling books and stirring up emotion. For those many believers whose picture of the universe is truly multidimensional, messing with the predicable myopia of the monists only encourages them to be more fanatical . <br /><br />Dawkins of course, like Dan Brown, relies on the fact that can you guarantee to win a mere argument ---if you set yourself up to win - if you simply get very greek and set yourself up a straw man or in Dawkins case, a straw God .<br />Dan Brown could be miffed . Dawkins can get away without any touchy feely earthly evidence for the jury . Not only that, with God absent ( at least, not audibly ) you need someone who does not realise the aim and rules of the game( can anyone really say what the invisible has been up to?) ; someone who doesn't quite get the point - the real limits of science and the real limits of rhetoric . <br /><br />Dawkins and the defenders of the detail of Genesis may be at each other , but without the accused being present to defend the accusation ( <em>"He had no role to play in Creation" </em>) ,and a proper focus on science , the setup outcome is predictable, if not entirely reasonable . <br />The idea that you have to be an atheist to be a scientist is not born out by <a href="http://www.iscast.org.au">the facts</a> ) The many keen christains who have degrees in physics and chemistry are dualists and do not see the absolute need , or reason to expect proofs on the propositions put by Dawkins. As true Believers , they are not overly perturbed about the hypo rationality of their addiction to faith . They see the logic that God's stated aim is to be more of a personal reality than a purely objective one. Like all Christians, they more would dearly like people to chase the hidden and see how faith can add value to science --how it can spawn and stir up <a href="http://graceware.blogspot.com">a sense of wonder</a> -the option of proof is denied them and us )<br /><br />Shakespeares England could have a good laugh at the <a href="http://lawandliberty.blogspot.com">laborious lumbering logomachy </a>of the reactionary monists .<a href="http://russianinn.blogspot.com">Why can't we ?</a> " <br />Its all greek to me" mate, said <a href="http://worthwatching.blogspot.com">Tvye</a> as he got on with really enjoying and working in his part of a very big big world.<em></em>journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-35003508172358518592007-06-27T07:46:00.000+10:002007-10-01T16:01:28.975+10:00Nothing more symbolizes the fanaticism of the people than their blind acceptance of risk avoidance tokens . <br />Nothing more symbolizes the god like, but godless arrogance of our leaders than there claims to be supermen <br />-Howard sends in the troops to save babies <br />-Rudds runs off at the mouth over simple means to save water<br />-Turnbull still thinks he can engineer his way out of a conservation issue <br />-Bracks makes water and sends us full page ads to tell us how clever he is <br />All this hot air over hot air seems to have led to too much haste and too much talk of brakes - Brakes in energy-1 and water-2 conservation and the new kid on the block -emission targeting-3. <br /><br />Now whether its 1 ,2 or 3 the science is one thing and the science and praxis is another . But apparantly in an election year the glove of control has only one lever - its called a brake. I am not clear who or whom is now commited to pressing it . I hope I am not the only one who thinks this is the biggest piece of impossible impotent projection ever in politics in Australia. Whose actually going to do it and how? <br />Pity these blokes aren't listening to the former PS commissioner Podger who is today reminding the leaders of our country that they are <strong>lost at sea through their own stupidity</strong>. If the issue was complex maybe they should consult with people whose training and experience doesn't allow them to be swayed by every <a href="http://quickfiz.blogspot.com ">passing wind of doctrine.</a>journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-1085393747251980092004-05-24T20:13:00.000+10:002004-05-24T20:17:03.356+10:00Despite a severe rap over the rape and burning of Ne victoria ( NVIc politicians are still determined to follow the noisy fanatics into some new idea about forest and land management that doesn't work,, even in the short term .
<br />Ignore the likes of Attwell at your peril all you half baked ecosystem experts with the experience and understanding of bookworms and armchair idealists.
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<br />took the time to tell NE landowners this week they were on the right track .
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<br />Thursday, May 06, 2004 journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-1083553689566105892004-05-03T13:08:00.000+10:002004-05-03T13:12:31.606+10:00<strong>Just how out of touch can Canberra get? </strong>
<br />In ecological terms, ( the olde frog and water story ) if you heat the water up with ONLY one important imperative like the competition imperative, you don't even know your killing people when everyone adjusts to the nice warmth of something held so simply in isolation? Ecological and economic systems die if ALL the forces aren't held in tension... constantly
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<br />Great to see some talk on the ABC about these issues. John Cleary Sunday nights
<br />The Old cultural cringe , though , is still very evident . "What would hick country people know "( eg one caller on Katter - "he hasn't even got a passport") Well they actually observe ecosystems very closely mate !That's a very good start!
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<br />Take this simple piece of faith " Life in rural A ustralia s doesn't have a future" according to Michael Duffy .And how does he KNOW this?- "well it just is "( knowledge is belief for those who carelessly chant with the Canberra sect)
<br />I mean they don't have to look any further, dig any deeper -
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<br />Isn't it great how labour and liberals are in such a smoochy mood over economic policy - the invisible clothes haven't looked any better for years!. http:/users.gsat.net.au/ tuf
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<br />We who study both ecosystems and economies KNOW they haven't got the big picture .......but will they listen ? oh no ; We believe what some ( of our very own cloned) academics and the multinationals tell us . All major parties in the Canberra sect trust the bookkeepers and their high priests.
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<br />"The Economy is going well according to the ledger . The new clothes of competition policy are delivering like nothing ever did before,,,, or ever will ( ottherwise we may have to wake up during our sittings!) ! AFTER ALL -THERE ARE ONLY TWO COLUMNS THAT MATTER ------AREN'T THERE ? "
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<br />It gets worse as the chants out of Canberra are louder, more insistent, more comfortable -more fanatical http:/ourland3.tripod.com
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<br />Surely, when the major parties agree to something as complex to model as the economy , we know we're in trouble -only one view . monoculture
<br />It makes them happy - they think they are the only ones who recognised Marxisms and the far left's heresies - The job of parliament is a bit bigger and you need to dig deeper!
<br />Trouble is there is no passion ; even when they are all in church during the week .
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<br />journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6668476.post-1080160953648318192004-03-25T07:42:00.000+11:002007-10-01T15:50:06.478+10:00My definition - Thanks George!Fanaticism consists of "redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim ( George Santayana).Help us prevent the wastage of excessive force by those who have lost their sense of the enemy. We may not be able to do much about the excessive force they apply but maybe we can do something by pointing more clearly at <a href="http://www.eftel.com/~sirhumphrey">the target</a>.journeymanjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11679612023619721683noreply@blogger.com0