Hull's ham fisted attempt to deal with things he doesn't like about religious schools doesn't gel with the liberties he offers most other organisations.
Why Brumby would allow Hulls the liberty of forcing schools to defend their employment policy is a mystery. Isn't the whole theme of the new exemptions a recognition that legitimate organisations/ employers have the right to choose their own staff .Schools must be the same!
Non fanatics would find another way, but the ham fisted Hulls blasts away . why? Hulls has had to be reigned in before .Why not again:? after all , by trying to overturn the burden of proof he needs to be told he's completely ignoring our legal heritage- he's mad !
Hulls has a few friends though that think " To be a good scientist you have to be a complete materialist ".
But the evidence on thats score is against him ( "Bios, Logos Theos" for eg) .
These monists think subject categories should be checked and double checked for absolute truth , heresy and doctrinal purity when no complete categorization is acceptable to any reasonable scientist .
For example , As I have said elsewhere I think kids at secondary school are smart. ,They need exposure to all sorts of ideas and subject declassification and good schools ( a more acceptable focus?) accept that . I don't like the noise and confusion and deafness created by dull witted censorship and fixed subject classifications . I don't want my daughter's biology teacher ( at any school) or even expect her to constantly go beyond the subject of DNA and adaption by natural selection, to saying its the theory of everything - but it may happen .What polys can do to stop abuse I don't know . Its not there job anyway - its the schools job . I don't want my daughter (IDWMD) to fail to make the distinction between science and the philosophy of science. IDWMD to only hear that meterology is the only way we learn about climate, history, cosmological history , physics and predictive earth science . IDWMD to constantly hear from her english teacher that "Lady's Chatterley's Lover is the best guide to sexual relationships ever .Dicsuss it yes- thats the point Choice . Deal with the wolf Maybe my daughter can cope with knowing thats what he really thinks anyway? Its the noise and deafness controls that need some attention --not the subjects ( Its not what goes into a man that ruins him mate - the prophet said)
The very love of categorization, as AN Whitehead pointed out in the 1920's is a disease .
Must be something really serious that worries them both ?
Maybe they worry too much.
Neither Brumby nor Hulls seems to realise that the popular teaching of the philosophy of evolutionary determinism (ED)in the media is rightly the subject of a controversy (a category error ) in the public mind and in religious schools in particular . In a free country a category error ( inherently relevant or not relevant) is not a crime, but a point from which to openly and rationally centre debate . Hulls clearly wants to close the debate down .What a dummy .
THE SOLUTION :
Teach ED in a philosophy class , and adaption by natural selection in biology class, at both secular and religious schools ......and BOTH will be happy - no need to panic; no need to get fanatical and spend weeks in court playing letigious logomachy. Not that hard to be reasonable and respectful with what parents (rather than what polys want)............. is it.
Is Brumby up to saying no to the reactionaries in his midst?
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Pull off the inherent requirements tests and burden of proof rubbish ( as if a job is the mere sum of the words ) ! Do polys really know what goes wrong where ? Does Labor not realize more Christians (and agnostics too) will leave the State system if the secularists insist in monoculture doctrine review in schools\? The secular/ religious divide in Vic schools is a asset and under good (by teachers and parents)review already ( not polys and legal boffins ---heaven forbid ) ? Sets the scene for category error discussions in a place where it can rightly be discussed ( in front of both parents and teachers)
Getting fanatical is an admission you have lost sight of the problem.
Better not to vote at all than act when you are such a mood !
What do polys know about what works- they maybe out rubbing sticks together next year?
The dumbness of it is obvious to those outside the cage - lets hope not all Laborites are in their together responding in kneejerk fashion to what is not their choice , but a parents choice .
As if Brumby's lot haven't got enough big issues without trying to turn our legal system upside down - a bit of freedom would go down well in the nanny state.
To risk the ruin of the great jewel in Victorias crown of the appeals system as well . The chairman of VCAT has stated the problem - but B government is still creating it. How about a job test for them? !
Who do they think they are anyway ?
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6 yrs later those worried about other people ideas and desperately trying to control our own think they have a right to teach our kids the right thing about being nice to people of the opposite sex .
In NSW they want to use the problem of bullying as the trojan horse to a carry yet another of their failed doctrines of how to deal with victimization .
Unfortunately those with the disease don't know its eating them up more than its eating up anyone else . "Get a life kiddos" we used to say - its a better way .
An even more effective way is to educate and give analogy and experience. Before they banned RE , kids would hear about people not being nice to each other each week .
The answer from that experience was clear . Shit happens. Get used to it , ignore it and get beyond it , as they did . The problem may not even be yours - its more commonly big in theirs.
The authors don't seem to know much about teaching and because their doctrine is not secular more parents will take their kids out of State schools while state school ideologues run the system for their preferred world view .
There is a film coming out " how I hate nice people and those who create them" :
More students and teachers will leave showing how little respect they have for such teaching style and content.
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